Massey Harris Cordwood Saw Manual
Picked up a cordwood saw yesterday. This one is in petty good shape.
It came with the belt pulley, extention, adapter(1 1/8' to 1 3/8'), saw blade, belt, top link bracket that mounts on the pulley (most are MIA) and he even thru in a cover, even though it was barn kept. He had it mounted on an international so I'm sure I will have to make some ajustments. Mostly used for bucking fence posts around their farm. Since the storm I got plenty of down firewood to cut. I've be wanting a buzz saw since I used my friends dearborn saw but most of the ones I have seen have been sitting outside for the last 30 year,missing pieces and the owner's think they have gold.
I'll post some photos of it maybe today. Snow's on the way so I might be plowing. That set up is a lot more substantial than the lighter made Dearborn saws. Your bearings are nice and heavy duty Kirk. It looks like the right angle drive has a cast extension to allow for the length of the 1 1/8 x 1 3/8 adaptor, or are my eyes deceiving me? My M-H-F right angle drive fits the back of the Fords but you have to use the thin 1 1/8 x 1 3/8 bushing, which cracks the first time you use the saw.
Cordwood Saw Manual
I shot grease in to hold the broken pieces in place and it works fine. Good deal on the rig.you will love the tilt top. Does that bolt with the T-bushing near the pivot have springs on it or are they missing? If missing a couple valve springs will work to push the table back at you from the bottom of travel, but too many or too stiff of springs and it'll make you grunt to compress them to saw. That set up is a lot more substantial than the lighter made Dearborn saws.
Woodsman Cordwood Saw Manual
Your bearings are nice and heavy duty Kirk. It looks like the right angle drive has a cast extension to allow for the length of the 1 1/8 x 1 3/8 adaptor, or are my eyes deceiving me? My M-H-F right angle drive fits the back of the Fords but you have to use the thin 1 1/8 x 1 3/8 bushing, which cracks the first time you use the saw. I shot grease in to hold the broken pieces in place and it works fine.
Good deal on the rig.you will love the tilt top. Does that bolt with the T-bushing near the pivot have springs on it or are they missing? If missing a couple valve springs will work to push the table back at you from the bottom of travel, but too many or too stiff of springs and it'll make you grunt to compress them to saw.Bearing are in good shape, no slope or play, nice and smooth. Yes it has the adaptor for the 1 3/8'. We used the thin one on the 8n beater we use at the deer camp with a bushhog and ORC.
It broke the first time out. It was a quick fix, just changed out the ORC to the proper size. Would buy the thin one again. There is a spring on the pivot but only on the one side.
After checking the manual they also have it on the one side. I may change out the spring anyway so I may add one to the other side as well. I have used similar - but front mount on a semi-permanent JD B - BE CAREFUL Even with shielding it is a dangerous outfit! Clean the blade up and then use lube to help avoid binding etc. Happt SAWDUST!
A REAL BACK SVER though. Hope it works out for you.I know these saws can be dangerous.
I have cut with these saws before. Always nice to work with a couple of people. A chucker really helps so the wood doesn't falling to the ground and pilling up and end up where it shouldn't.
When I went to buy it my wife took the ride with me. It was kind of like Ralphy in the Christmas story with the red ryder BB gun 'You'll shoot your eye out'. Well my wife took one look the saw and said 'you'll cut your arm off.' She said that's why it's painted red so you don't see the blood splatter. Like Ralphy,to draw her attention away from the saw I said Hey look at those old crocks in the corner. My wife collects crock so buying the saw was cheap compared to what I spent in crocks.
Next time going to leave her home.
:: Author Message Brian Allen Tractor Expert Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 1966 Location: Stokes Bay, Ontario, Canada Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: RE: Dearborn buzz saw This was originaly posted by PloughNman on December 22, 2003 at 08:49:57 from (64.18.238.237): In Reply to: Cordwood saw posted by Jeb2N on December 20, 2003 at 13:24:12: Jeb- You got me thinking so I dug out my books. On page 115 of the Peterson/Beemer book Ford Tractor Implements-A Color History, there is a promo photo of a 9N with a buzz saw attached. The index lists the Ferguson saw being made from 1946-1952. I have several Ford/Ferguson System brochures but none show a buzz saw with the other implements. A 1946 Ferguson brochure does list and show the saw, but no where in the brochure does it mention Ford. A late 1945 Ford/Ferguson brochure does list the saw according to John Farnworth A recent conversation with my uncle concerning some information I am gathering for an article in the N-Newsletter, brought out the fact that he remembers driving the '39 9N back into the woods with the saw attached to cut wood, rather than trying to bring the woood to the saw. He said it was just one of the features of the 'new' farm tractor that made work a lot easier.
A list of Ferguson Suppliers 1939-1948 is on page 114 and states the cordwood saws were made by the Dellinger Manufacturing Company, Lancaster, Penn. Ferguson may have had them made in England with his new TE20 also, just my guess.
Also, on page 21 of John Farnworth's excellent book, Ferguson Implements And Accessories, shows an overhaed view of the attachments to the tractor. Two models were made by Ferguson: A-LE-19 and A-LE-A20. The 19 was first produced and had a 8.5in pulley on the saw shaft.
The 20 has an 8in pulley. It further states that each required a different length belt and, each had a different guard- the 19 had angular guards, and the 20 had circular. The Dearborn Cordwood Saw was produced from 1947-1949.
Massey Harris Cordwood Saw Manuals
Two models, 22-1 and 22-44 were made identical except the latter was produced from 1949-? And had better engineering features. It appears they all used a 30-inch blade. I have an original Dearborn A/O Manual for the buzz saw if that'll help you with your restoration. It's easy to say that they were identical, but they couldn't be. One thing Ford needed was to be careful with their new Dearborn line of implements. Not to copy exactly the old Ferguson implements for fear of lawsuit was what the strived for.
An example is the cultivator spacing. Dearborn used 16-inches between angle iron frame work as the Ferguson had a 15-inch.
Dearborn engineers also raplaced the guide fin with a rolling coulter. Sorry for the rant-I'm home sick today and not much else to do.
Tim - PloughNman You mentioned 'I have an original Dearborn A/O Manual for the buzz saw if that'll help you with your restoration'. If you still have that A/O Dearborn buzz saw manual, I am interested in it. Please reply.
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